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Valve adjustment access.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 6:21 am
by erisaman
I'm not an owner yet but am looking at my options, having studied the PCX for quite some time. I've now 'factored-in' the Forza as an alternative to the PCX, favouring the Forza 300.
Having read the lengths owners need to go to to access the PCX head for valve adjustment, I'm asking if the Forza is equally 'daunting' re panel removal for access please?
Thanks.
Re: Valve adjustment access.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 6:49 am
by fish
It ain't easy....plus you need a pack of shims.
Looking for easy to do valves on a 155cc scooter?
...check out the new Piaggo Liberty 150i ABS. Less $ than a PCX as well.
Or the "scooter of the year" new Kymco Like150i ABS. Also less $ than a PCX.
Owners of these scoots will actually check their valves - rather than listing reasons not to.
Fish
Re: Valve adjustment access.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 6:57 am
by easyrider
The FORZA is a bigger more stable riding bike and more comfortable in my view. Can handle hills and grades and highways speeds a bit better. The PCX is a great maneuverable bike and mostly intended for inner city commutes and similar travel. The PCX has screw adjustable tappets and very easy to set the lash using a feeler gauge, however there is a considerable amount of work needed to get at the head. The seat pan has to come out basically. The FORZA uses shims for valve adjustment and a bit more technical to get the proper clearances. The PCX is simple to adjust however this should not be a concern on either bike as this rarely presents any operating issues . Get the bike that fits your needs better financially and comfort wise and not worry about a valve adjustment.
Re: Valve adjustment access.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 7:46 am
by you you
Is there no way to alter the bodywork so the seat bucket can be removed in its own?
Re: Valve adjustment access.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 7:54 am
by erisaman
Thank you all - I'm having a second childhood and researching having a TRIKE

. I'm in touch with a conversion specialist and had thought to go for the PCX150 in lieu of the 125 - a little extra punch to drag the extra wheel and weight. But Honda never imported the 150 into the UK so I won't go the 'grey import' route, preferring to upsize to the Forza instead.
I'm asking about maintenance as I'll do as much as I can myself - using it as a hobby - and riding almost strictly in the summer. This is my last fling at a little nonsense - having had a wonderful life with some glorious cars. Ah well - we can all dream

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Thanks again.
Re: Valve adjustment access.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 10:04 am
by easyrider
Seat pan comes right out.May have to jiggle some things a bit and maybe the back bracket had to come off.Been many moons but remember it was relatively easy if you don't follow the book.Very easy no breakage,just use care moving things.
Re: Valve adjustment access.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 11:05 am
by you you
easyrider wrote:Seat pan comes right out.May have to jiggle some things a bit and maybe the back bracket had to come off.Been many moons but remember it was relatively easy if you don't follow the book.Very easy no breakage,just use care moving things.
I think I might give it a go first if I ever need to get in there.
Re: Valve adjustment access.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 11:40 am
by easyrider
Not too bad really.You can do it I'm sure.
Re: Valve adjustment access.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 11:51 am
by gn2
Forza valve check interval is 16,000 miles so not going to need doing very often.
If you do 5000 miles a year you've got three years to save up to have a shop do it.
Re: Valve adjustment access.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:27 pm
by easyrider
gn2 wrote:Forza valve check interval is 16,000 miles so not going to need doing very often.
If you do 5000 miles a year you've got three years to save up to have a shop do it.
X2... best logic !
Re: Valve adjustment access.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 5:06 pm
by erisaman
easyrider wrote:gn2 wrote:Forza valve check interval is 16,000 miles so not going to need doing very often.
If you do 5000 miles a year you've got three years to save up to have a shop do it.
X2... best logic !
Yes - I like that idea too, thank you. I'd read so often about the PCX and the 5000 mile check/adjustment (and how many like to give it a miss because of the access hassle) that I automatically assumed the Forza would be similar.
I've much to learn about scooters etc and am currently so naive that if anyone suggests I use sky hooks for storage or to get a long stand - I'd probably Google them to find the cost! A bubble for a spirit level? Nah, I'll not fall for that one - who's ever heard of a spirit level on a scooter ........ or is that what you call a fuel gauge?
Thanks again - I'm liking this forum

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Re: Valve adjustment access.
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 3:10 am
by gn2
If you're buying an adjustable spanner, make sure you get a metric one...
Re: Valve adjustment access.
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 7:29 am
by davenowherejones
gn2 wrote:If you're buying an adjustable spanner, make sure you get a metric one...
Here you go.
Re: Valve adjustment access.
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 8:34 am
by erisaman
davenowherejones wrote:gn2 wrote:If you're buying an adjustable spanner, make sure you get a metric one...
Here you go.
Thank you GN2 - and thanks to davenowherejones for the pic - am so smiling here

- your username has always struck a chord with me as I'm from Wales and my name is ...... (ain't many of us left now - they've all gone 'nowhere').