Sticking centre stand

[aphid]

My centre stand has started to stick. When I push my PCX off it’s centre stand, the stand retracts most of the way back up but not completely...without a bit of manual help. I am guessing that there has been a build up of road dirt underneath that needs to be cleaned out? Although I found a parts diagram, I searched without success on both the forum and also Youtube for guidance/illustration of how to tackle this. Has anyone come across anything that would help me, please?

[paulcoup]

When I bought my used 2013 PCX, the center stand was in rough shape. I was going to remove it, clean it up and re-paint it, but found a replacement here in the US was less than 20 USD. In the end I bough the stand, shaft, spring and rubber stop. I believe the workshop manual requires you to use lithium grease on the shaft and stand during assembly - which I did.
I put the scoot on the center stand, put pennies in the spring, took the scoot off the center and onto the side stand. (Using the pennies in the spring when it's extended stops it compressing when the stand is 'closed' making the spring easy to remove - I don't have a spring puller). If your stand is in good shape clean it. Make sure the shaft and housing are clean and lubricate with lithium grease. Make sure the spring is in good shape (the spring here was just over a dollar!).

PaulC

[springer1]

When I bought my used 2013 PCX, the center stand was in rough shape. I was going to remove it, clean it up and re-paint it, but found a replacement here in the US was less than 20 USD. In the end I bough the stand, shaft, spring and rubber stop. I believe the workshop manual requires you to use lithium grease on the shaft and stand during assembly - which I did.
I put the scoot on the center stand, put pennies in the spring, took the scoot off the center and onto the side stand. (Using the pennies in the spring when it's extended stops it compressing when the stand is 'closed' making the spring easy to remove - I don't have a spring puller). If your stand is in good shape clean it. Make sure the shaft and housing are clean and lubricate with lithium grease. Make sure the spring is in good shape (the spring here was just over a dollar!).

PaulC

Great post !

[aphid]

Thanks for the reply, Paul.
Your description makes it sound like the whole stand should be quite easy to remove, clean and reassemble ? ...even for me! From the diagram, it looks like the pin (#11) is pulled out releasing #3 which slides out of #2? That simple?
I have never heard of lithium grease but hopefully I can get some locally. Would access be easier to lie the bike on a padded surface on it’s side?

[gn2]

https://www.hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1344

[aphid]

https://www.hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1344

Hallelujah! This is exactly what I have been looking for. Thank you so much. I’ll get me some grease and a new split pin then I’m good to go.

[NADman]

Grease is the best way to attract grit. I clean and dry moving parts and use graphite,
the way we always did our clutch and brake cables.

[gn2]

Grit isn't the problem, corrosion is.

[aphid]

Oh, I see. Being close to the road I thought it would be caused by the gradual penetration of dirt from over the rainy months. Clearly not. I see there are various sizes of split pins out there. Do you know the size i need, please?

[iceman]

Mine was sticking, found loads of crud from our dirty roads on and around the bar - removed a lot of it and it's been fine since. Yes, I need to take it apart and will do so soon, but removing most of the crud solved the issue.

[paulcoup]

Oh, I see. Being close to the road I thought it would be caused by the gradual penetration of dirt from over the rainy months. Clearly not. I see there are various sizes of split pins out there. Do you know the size i need, please?

The Split (or Cotter) pin is 3.0mm x 28mm long.
The Honda OEM part number is 94201-30200.

PaulC

[aphid]

The Split (or Cotter) pin is 3.0mm x 28mm long.
The Honda OEM part number is 94201-30200.

Thanks. That's good to know. Presumably doesn't have to be Honda OEM split pin.

[homie]

When I push my PCX off it’s centre stand, the stand retracts most of the way back up but not completely...without a bit of service manual help, I am guessing

Check your PM's... little some'em some'em for ya.

[you you]

When I bought my used 2013 PCX, the center stand was in rough shape. I was going to remove it, clean it up and re-paint it, but found a replacement here in the US was less than 20 USD. In the end I bough the stand, shaft, spring and rubber stop. I believe the workshop manual requires you to use lithium grease on the shaft and stand during assembly - which I did.
I put the scoot on the center stand, put pennies in the spring, took the scoot off the center and onto the side stand. (Using the pennies in the spring when it's extended stops it compressing when the stand is 'closed' making the spring easy to remove - I don't have a spring puller). If your stand is in good shape clean it. Make sure the shaft and housing are clean and lubricate with lithium grease. Make sure the spring is in good shape (the spring here was just over a dollar!).

PaulC

Penny trick is top quality.

[aphid]

Goldilocks dilemma....which bowl of porridge...?

Getting 3 x 28mm split cotter pins is proving very difficult. I can get
3 x 38mm (much too long?), or
2.5 x 28mm, or
3.2 x 28mm (too fat?)

Any suggestions?

[gn2]

Get 3x38 and cut to size with pliers.
Or use a suitably sized R-clip.

[aphid]

Ok, thanks.

[aphid]

My split pins and grease arrived today, so out I went to have a go. So far the pin hasn’t budged so I will soak even more with WD40 before trying again. A question did occur, though. Does the spring need to be removed first from the opposite end?

[paulcoup]

1. Remove the spring.
2. Remove the split pin - The split pin (part #11 in the diagram) needs to be straightened out, then pulled out the hole.
3. Now the tension is removed from the center stand by removing the spring, the main stand shaft (part # 3 in the diagram) is removed.
(If 'stuck', tap it out towards the left side of the bike (the side where the spring came off). Don't hit it too hard, and by all means use WD-40 or some other form of rust release spray).

Once the shaft is removed, the stand should be free.

Clean the shaft, clean the stand, clean the spring. Apply grease and re-assemble.
The stand should move freely when it, the shaft, washer and pin are re-assembled, (before installing the spring).

PaulC

[aphid]

Thanks, Paul. I have been following (well, trying to) the excellent instructions posted earlier: https://www.hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1344
But I couldn't see anything about removing the spring so I assumed it had to be removed to get the shaft out... Thanks for confirming that it does.