Not much going on in the Forza section!
It is a PCX forum after all, but I will up date my Forza experiences (125)
Had the bike now for four months, covered about 1,500 miles on it. Not as much as I would like but the weather has been extra poor in the UK so only going out for work purposes rather than fun.
I paid £2,200 for 2015 with 9.5k miles on it with heated grips and Honda top box.
Fuel economy, Im averaging around 105 MPG - a lot of this is short journeys to be fair and I can get over 120 MPG on a run.
I would say this is about 10 MPG worse than the PCX. I averaged 114 MPG on the PCX over the whole time I had it. I did record it all on a spreadsheet!
Lowest ever on PCX was 99 MPG and that was a motorway run.
I really like the extra stability and storage of the Forza over the PCX and am enjoying riding in the wet. Was always a bit nervous on the PCX, maybe this is tyre related, but the Forza has bigger wider tyres and I really can have some fun even in the wet.
Forza has Michelin City Grips, my PCX had IRC and then Dunlop Scoot Smart.
Storage is great, I can get my helmet under the seat and a ton of other stuff. I couldnt get my helmet under the PCX seat, (2014) model, but the 2nd Gen I think (with black forks)
Insurance and tax is the same
Performance:
Forza is good for 70mph, not sure mine will go as fast as the one I tested in 2015 so maybe it has roller wear or is sensitive to roller wear or something, but on the test bike I got an indicated 85mph (probably 75). No way mine will do that, I can get max 75mph indicated)
PCX would sometimes get to 65mph indicated so maybe we have an average 10mph on the Forza depending on condition?
Acceleration is worse off the line in the Forza than the PCX, but it has a nice mid range (relative of course)
I do miss the accleration off the line of the PCX, but the top end makes it up for me and I can go on a motorway now and anot get totally stuck if someone is at an awkward speed a head.
So, what are the problems:
Two so far:
The engine - is it weak? My bike had an engine rebuild at 9.5k miles (Not by me but by Honda who were selling it second hand).
They said it had a damaged crankshaft. I got the impression this was a common problem.
So I have doubts how long the rebuilt engine will last, but so far so good.
The mirrors - Oh my God, this could be a deal breaker for me. They are awful even by motorbike/scooter standards. I hate them and can see nothing behind me. It makes me very nervous not to know how close the car behind is, especially at junctions and roundabouts and is a safety issue for me. As experienced riders know, you can prevent an accident that is not your fault, by monitoring cars behind you and control them with your own actions so as to protect yourself.
You cant do this on the Forza as you cant see what is behind you. I have the mirror blindspot things on the bike and this helps a very little, but everything is microscopic in the mirror and still very hard to see, but at least you know for sure if someone is behind you. I guess this is a common problem as I have seen many Forzas with the mirror blindspot additions.
Not sure it there is a good solution to this, but if I had bought the bike brand new, I would have been very annoyed.
I might not keep the bike for this sole reason.
Quality - Same as PCX I would say certainly no better, but I was happy with the PCX quality personally and it never let me done, but then I did buy it new and look after it.
Is it worth the extra over the PCX? - Only if it had decent mirrors in my opinion. You do get extra stability and storage and a higher top speed making motorways a bit more feasible.
Filtering and traffic is easy on this it is great fun down a country road, you can really hammer it around the bends.
Will get some more pictures up soon - weather is set to improve
Additional:
I dont think the Forza speedo is accurate. In fact I think it is deliberatly over optimistic to bump up the marketing hype when it is new. All speedos over read a bit, but I dont trust the speedo on the Forza much...
