Tail Light Assembly & Fix
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Absolutely no point whatsoever trading a PCX against another PCX.
If you want more performance you need to be looking to go to at least a 250.
If you want more performance you need to be looking to go to at least a 250.
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In the US the 150 is freeway legal. The 125 is not.
Sometimes a two minute ride on the freeway will save 15 minutes in traffic on side streets. I try to avoid driving my PCX on the freeway, but occasionally it helps.
Meanwhile there’s no shame in a 20% increase in power, and raising top speed 10 mph without increased in fuel consumption.
Sometimes a two minute ride on the freeway will save 15 minutes in traffic on side streets. I try to avoid driving my PCX on the freeway, but occasionally it helps.
Meanwhile there’s no shame in a 20% increase in power, and raising top speed 10 mph without increased in fuel consumption.
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Re: Tail Light Assembly & Fix
I hear ya gn2...it is a crazy consideration
Plus, I really love my white with gold hues. Still...., I'm thinking about it. Why? The ability to keep up with the flow of traffic (60 plus), having a nearby service dealer, and I'd be hoping to transfer my present Extended warranty with the purchase. Again...is that all worth the 2 grand? I just went full circle on that
Yep a 250 would be the expected/smarter choice, as my Piaggio MP3 250 was... except that was just too darn wide, heavy and bulky for my body. Wonderful ride though. I'm not sure of a good 250 machine in the states these days. Vespa is heavy, too costly upfront and while owned, repairs & panel replacements....ouch! I'll see what comes of this imature nonsense I'm putting myself through lately...


Yep a 250 would be the expected/smarter choice, as my Piaggio MP3 250 was... except that was just too darn wide, heavy and bulky for my body. Wonderful ride though. I'm not sure of a good 250 machine in the states these days. Vespa is heavy, too costly upfront and while owned, repairs & panel replacements....ouch! I'll see what comes of this imature nonsense I'm putting myself through lately...

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Urbanian, good points, and well said. I feel the same/ride the same
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Re: Tail Light Assembly & Fix
I did the brakelight switch today but I'm at a standstill now. All the panels I mentioned earlier were removed in 20 mins (that was the fast part) then things got tricky snaking and routing the switch wire down to its connection behind the meter panel. It's in the right location now but I can't get the old switch wires disconnected. Me and wires? Not so good as of late
Now asking for help on disconnecting them
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Looks like that transparent green silicone is just insulation to pull aside. Then unplug the bullet connector underneath. Use 2 pliers either side for grip if they are tight. If you break the insulation just re wrap in electrical or other tape!
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Kymco Downtown 300i or People GT300i, both excellent machines.WhiteNoise wrote:I'm not sure of a good 250 machine in the states these days.
http://www.kymcousa.com/showroom/scoote ... index.html
http://www.kymcousa.com/showroom/scoote ... index.html
Piaggio Beverly Sport Touring, for some weird reason the US version doesn't have the ABS or Traction control, but it does have the totally excellent new 330 engine with it's 6000 mile oil changes and 12000 mile services.

http://www.piaggiousa.com/scooters.html#!s=home/bv-350
And hot off the press, Sym have just re-introduced the Citycom 300i to the States
http://alliancepowersports.com/
Given time they might also bring the new Joymax 300i...?
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Taz thanks for the tip. The silicone insulation is on really tight. Geez, is it heat shrunk on there?
I thought about holding a needle nose pliers at one end while pulling at the other end, but then decided to ask here first. I'm a bit fearful of tearing it and maybe even damaging the connector inside it (along with the "good wires" that run to the other brake lever).
Still, what else can I do? No other choice, right?

Still, what else can I do? No other choice, right?
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its only insulation, cut it off with a sharp knife or scalpel! Its only 12 volts, you wont harm yourself!
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gn2 I looked at your bike links, thanks for sharing them. Newly announced Sym is interesting. I checked all the bikes weight/heights. For me, the seats are a bit high and some too heavy. I went to local Piaggio dealer anxious to see and sit on the Beverly 350. Really nice but seat too high, and oddly I felt my knees and body were too forward. Crowded, my nose in screen kind of feeling. The seat on my MP3 was close to a 31" not a safe feeling so I sold it. I don't want to make that costly mistake again. 29 to 30" high & under 325lbs. would probably be good. I waited so long for the PCX to arrive...I'm so glad I did 

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Re: Tail Light Assembly & Fix
Jerk it off with pliers, it'll be fine. Those connectors are the same as the ones for the taillights, and they're quite durable. I certainly wouldn't attack it with a knife though, you should be able to grasp one end, and pull the other out with pliers.
I would definitely NOT trade my PCX150 for a 125, unless the trade was free or only a couple hundred dollars. You can get a used PCX for $2000 if you look hard enough!
I would definitely NOT trade my PCX150 for a 125, unless the trade was free or only a couple hundred dollars. You can get a used PCX for $2000 if you look hard enough!

Currently ride: Nothing right now - mostly mountain biking with my boys until they're old enough to ride
Previously rides: 2011 Honda PCX 125, 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes

Previously rides: 2011 Honda PCX 125, 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes
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Okay thanks guys. Hold & pull, it is. I pray this fix makes the brake light "shine again!"
No way would I trade a 150 for a 125 pcx,....but the other way around? Thinking about that now, but most likely not doing
It's "White" after all 
No way would I trade a 150 for a 125 pcx,....but the other way around? Thinking about that now, but most likely not doing


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Sorry, I meant trade my PCX125 for a 150. Oops. 

Currently ride: Nothing right now - mostly mountain biking with my boys until they're old enough to ride
Previously rides: 2011 Honda PCX 125, 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes

Previously rides: 2011 Honda PCX 125, 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes
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Re: Tail Light Assembly & Fix
no problemo
Been busy with family matters (hint...Mom). So I hope to get back to this soon

Been busy with family matters (hint...Mom). So I hope to get back to this soon
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Great Sunday! The deed is done! I used two pliers to pull the bullet wires out of the silicone sleeved connector (thanks Dave and Taz for All your help
Next....and As I expected, getting the "New" switch "bullet ends" into the connector was more of a PITA due to the flexability of the wires. I used a needlenose plier to push them in, but "feeling" the bullets lock-in was hard. To make sure they would stay put, I added some electrical tape.
Turned the key, braked and..... Voila

Next....and As I expected, getting the "New" switch "bullet ends" into the connector was more of a PITA due to the flexability of the wires. I used a needlenose plier to push them in, but "feeling" the bullets lock-in was hard. To make sure they would stay put, I added some electrical tape.
Turned the key, braked and..... Voila

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Re: Tail Light Assembly & Fix
Here is the Bad switch. Yes,
all those fussy bits Are what makes up the left brake light switch.
(That have Now been filed under "G" as in garbage

(That have Now been filed under "G" as in garbage

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Well done. Sometimes what seems a simple job becomes a saga. I'm used to 12 v wiring as my boat has 8 batteries and solar charging. Even my bicycle is now electric.
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Glad to hear you got it resolved, WN!
Currently ride: Nothing right now - mostly mountain biking with my boys until they're old enough to ride
Previously rides: 2011 Honda PCX 125, 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes

Previously rides: 2011 Honda PCX 125, 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes
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Re: Tail Light Assembly & Fix
Bumping thread for member Driller.
Is this the problem? Hope it helps
Is this the problem? Hope it helps

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Good work! Thanks for the help.
Part is ordered and the problem will son be resolved.
BTW, a tip for future reference is if you keep the contacts isolated with some electrical tape, the bike will still start and run. Of course the rear brake switch will not activate the light nor will it allow starting but the right brake lever will do both. Should not be a safety issue as the front brake switch is redundant and still functions.
Part is ordered and the problem will son be resolved.
BTW, a tip for future reference is if you keep the contacts isolated with some electrical tape, the bike will still start and run. Of course the rear brake switch will not activate the light nor will it allow starting but the right brake lever will do both. Should not be a safety issue as the front brake switch is redundant and still functions.