Saw a picture, found one and bought it straight away
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Saw a picture, found one and bought it straight away
I had been looking at scooters for the better part of a year and the ones I liked best were all too tall for my 5'2". Then magically I saw a picture of the Forza, noted the awesome styling and the seat height, and I think I got the first one to hit Sacramento! I've had it for a few weeks and just love it. Thanks to this forum, I discovered that there is now a taller windscreen available and I have that on order right now. The low windscreen was the only thing about the Forza that didn't thrill me. The Forza is my eighth bike, and likely will be my last. My previous bikes over the last 30 years have been: 1977 Honda Hawk 400, Honda 500 Interceptor (1983? can't remember), Yamaha FZ600, Honda Pacific Coast #1, Honda GB500 #1, Honda Pacific Coast # 2, Honda GB500 # 2, and the Forza.
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Re: Saw a picture, found one and bought it straight away
Congratulations! I also love my Forza. It is just the right size, maneuvers well, and has plenty of power for me.
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Re: Saw a picture, found one and bought it straight away
Yep, nice choice, absolutely chuffed with mine, first service next week:-)
Scoots so far- Peugeot jetforce 125,honda Dylan 125,yamaha x max 125,honda pcx 125,honda nss300 forza ;-) and bikes were kh250, zxr750L1,zx9B1,zx9c1,wr426,xjr1300sp,09-z1000
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Re: Saw a picture, found one and bought it straight away
Welcome to hondapcx.org .... even if it is as a Forza owner.
I like the Forza a lot but it is too big to weave between the cars in downtown Bangkok traffic. I'll stick with the PCX until I move to a less congested place.

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Re: Saw a picture, found one and bought it straight away
Nonsense.kramnala58 wrote:I like the Forza a lot but it is too big to weave between the cars in downtown Bangkok traffic.
You can do it if you really want...
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Thanks for your expertise on this.gn2 wrote:Nonsense. You can do it if you really want...kramnala58 wrote:I like the Forza a lot but it is too big to weave between the cars in downtown Bangkok traffic.

We literally weave in an out between the cars, usually with not much more than a centimeter or two clearance at the mirrors. The longer wheel base of the PCX over most bikes here is challenging enough, thus, going to the longer and wider Forza just makes it harder. If I am going to get stuck behind a car, I might as well do it sitting in another car with A/C. Riding a bike in this city cuts travel time at least in half, if not even more during busy times. The morning rush hour traffic is usually from about 5:00am-1:00pm and the afternoon/evening rush hour is usually from about 1:15pm to 10:00pm.



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Re: Saw a picture, found one and bought it straight away
Sorry, I was forgetting that cars and traffic in Bangkok are completely different to cars and traffic anywhere else on the planet.
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So the Forza is about half an inch wider and less than ten inches longer.
i.e. fucking massive. Not.
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So the Forza is about half an inch wider and less than ten inches longer.
i.e. fucking massive. Not.
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Don't worry about GN2's experience, or the lack of it, it will never get in the way of his opinionskramnala58 wrote:Thanks for your expertise on this.gn2 wrote:Nonsense. You can do it if you really want...kramnala58 wrote:I like the Forza a lot but it is too big to weave between the cars in downtown Bangkok traffic.When was the last time you rode a bike in the center of Bangkok?
We literally weave in an out between the cars, usually with not much more than a centimeter or two clearance at the mirrors. The longer wheel base of the PCX over most bikes here is challenging enough, thus, going to the longer and wider Forza just makes it harder. If I am going to get stuck behind a car, I might as well do it sitting in another car with A/C. Riding a bike in this city cuts travel time at least in half, if not even more during busy times. The morning rush hour traffic is usually from about 5:00am-1:00pm and the afternoon/evening rush hour is usually from about 1:15pm to 10:00pm.![]()
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I don't want to take sides. I think both bikes are great and each have their own virtues. However, I was really surprised by how nimble the Forza really is.
Also, I sat on both a PCX150 and a Forza at the dealer. I was surprised to find that the seat height on the Forza is actually a bit lower and more comfortable (for me) than the PCX. So, it gave me more confidence about riding the Forza and, more importantly, confidence that it would be easy to handle when stopping and taking off from a stop.
For the vertically challenged, the small difference in seat height is an important factor to consider.
Both the PCX and Forza are great bikes. Pick the bike that fits you and your needs.
Also, I sat on both a PCX150 and a Forza at the dealer. I was surprised to find that the seat height on the Forza is actually a bit lower and more comfortable (for me) than the PCX. So, it gave me more confidence about riding the Forza and, more importantly, confidence that it would be easy to handle when stopping and taking off from a stop.
For the vertically challenged, the small difference in seat height is an important factor to consider.
Both the PCX and Forza are great bikes. Pick the bike that fits you and your needs.
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you you wrote:Don't worry about GN2's experience, or the lack of it, it will never get in the way of his opinions. Let's rejoice in the way he gives them so freely



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Re: Saw a picture, found one and bought it straight away
Just got my Forza!!! Traded in my PCX 150 and some cash...Loved my PCX but just got really tired, after a year, of the slow uphills and the automatic rpm cutoffs. Had Dr Sliders in the PCX and cruised at 69 mph on the flats but uphill is a different animal. Mileage went out the window also in the wind..looking forward to reading REAL reviews of some Forza riders.
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BTW, no probs weaving, even with my cortech saddle bags, in traffic... I do find it a bit more stressful than when I had my PCX 150 however...
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If I tried weaving, splitting lanes, or going around cars at a light or a traffic hold up, I would be a dead man. At a minimum, ticketed, and, more likely, doored.
The 50 cc scoots can get away with it since they are SUPPOSED to be at the side of the road, but with a regular licence plate, you are motor vehicle and as such constrained to the same laws as those less-nimble four-wheel things clogging up the road.
The 50 cc scoots can get away with it since they are SUPPOSED to be at the side of the road, but with a regular licence plate, you are motor vehicle and as such constrained to the same laws as those less-nimble four-wheel things clogging up the road.
On my scoot, getting there is WAY more than half the fun!
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If we couldn't weave between the cars, we would never be able to line up at the lights like this.GeorgeSK wrote:If I tried weaving, splitting lanes, or going around cars at a light or a traffic hold up, I would be a dead man. At a minimum, ticketed, and, more likely, doored.

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That is a great picture! We do NOT deal with that kind of scooter traffic here in the US. Are there 3 people on some of those scooters?
BTW, in reply to GeorgeSK... in Ohio even a 50cc scoot is considered a motorcycle and has to have a plate. The laws here see no difference between my Ruckus (50cc) and my Forza. (The laws vary by state.) But, I never ride the Ruckus on busy roads with speed limits over 50 mph.
Also, I totally agree that a 50cc scoot can squeeze into place my Forza cannot (or at least I won't try it).
BTW, in reply to GeorgeSK... in Ohio even a 50cc scoot is considered a motorcycle and has to have a plate. The laws here see no difference between my Ruckus (50cc) and my Forza. (The laws vary by state.) But, I never ride the Ruckus on busy roads with speed limits over 50 mph.
Also, I totally agree that a 50cc scoot can squeeze into place my Forza cannot (or at least I won't try it).
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Re: Saw a picture, found one and bought it straight away
No kidding. In my area, it's rare to be at an intersection with even one other scooter or motorcycle.Darth Emma wrote:That is a great picture! We do NOT deal with that kind of scooter traffic here in the US. Are there 3 people on some of those scooters?
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I believe that almost everywhere in the US it's illegal to weave between vehicles and riding between cars on the white line. It annoys me when I see people doing it here and it's definitely very unsafe. Since it's illegal, cars don't watch and you could get wiped out easily by doing it. Not to mention being ticketed.GeorgeSK wrote:If I tried weaving, splitting lanes, or going around cars at a light or a traffic hold up, I would be a dead man. At a minimum, ticketed, and, more likely, doored.
The 50 cc scoots can get away with it since they are SUPPOSED to be at the side of the road, but with a regular licence plate, you are motor vehicle and as such constrained to the same laws as those less-nimble four-wheel things clogging up the road.

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PKrellner wrote:I believe that almost everywhere in the US it's illegal to weave between vehicles and riding between cars on the white line. It annoys me when I see people doing it here and it's definitely very unsafe. Since it's illegal, cars don't watch and you could get wiped out easily by doing it. Not to mention being ticketed.GeorgeSK wrote:If I tried weaving, splitting lanes, or going around cars at a light or a traffic hold up, I would be a dead man. At a minimum, ticketed, and, more likely, doored.
The 50 cc scoots can get away with it since they are SUPPOSED to be at the side of the road, but with a regular licence plate, you are motor vehicle and as such constrained to the same laws as those less-nimble four-wheel things clogging up the road.
I know it is legal in California. It's called "lane splitting."
http://www.chp.ca.gov/programs/lanesplitguide.html
I've seen several videos of people doing it.
I agree, it doesn't look safe to me.
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That picture was taken by a guy I work with just around the corner from where I live in the center of Bangkok. I had never ridden a motorcycle in my life before moving here Fortunately I have a large parking lot at work (½ km from my apartment) where I was able to set up traffic cones to practice maneuvering and and huge tobacco processing facility just behind us where I would practice riding on the road. After about 100 kms of that I ventured out into the concrete jungle with the mass of bikes and cars. I have only put about 1,000 kms on thus far so I am no where near an expert, but slow and steady gets me there.Darth Emma wrote:We do NOT deal with that kind of scooter traffic here in the US.
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There may well be. Here is a picture of one of our employees heading home for the day. She is the one on the back. Every time I see this sort of thing (which is daily), I whisper a prayer.Darth Emma wrote:Are there 3 people on some of those scooters?
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