Honda NM4

Monty1952 · Post by **Monty1952** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:51 pm

If you have seen one of these anywhere what do you think? I had or have no interest in buying one but was curious and saw one in the store yesterday. Its butt ugly in my mind and could not less practical if they tried. Open the side cases and there is so little room for almost anything. The riding position and low seat height prove that it was designed in and for the Japanese market with little thought for the average height globally. Is it just me and do you think there is enough folks willing to hand over $12,500? Makes the Forza look like the steal of the decade!

SECoda · Post by **SECoda** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:05 pm

Overpriced IMO. I thought it more scooter than motorcycle. My dealer confessed to me they can't move the CTX700s either in that size class so I wonder how they will do. He said they sell a lot more Shadows. I think he said it has a smaller tank than the Forza with that engine.

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/ ... eview.html

you you · Post by **you you** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:00 pm

SECoda wrote:Overpriced IMO. I thought it more scooter than motorcycle. My dealer confessed to me they can't move the CTX700s either in that size class so I wonder how they will do. He said they sell a lot more Shadows. I think he said it has a smaller tank than the Forza with that engine.

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/ ... eview.html

(Eye) Shadows make Harley's look macho. If such a thing was possible since the late 70s...

gn2 · Post by **gn2** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:17 pm

Seen the UK Vultus version on the road a couple of times.
It looks like a bad joke.

Monty1952 · Post by **Monty1952** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:56 pm

gn2 wrote:Seen the UK Vultus version on the road a couple of times.
It looks like a bad joke.

Somewhere around Loch Ness maybe?

Steph · Post by **Steph** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:07 pm

I don't like it. Give me the Honda CTX 700N DCT.

SECoda · Post by **SECoda** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:10 pm

Wholly Batcycle! (from one pro reviewer)

Steph · Post by **Steph** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:43 pm

I do wonder why the dealer is having a hard time moving the CTXs? They seem like a cool bike. I want one!

SECoda · Post by **SECoda** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:15 pm

I told my wife I have a camping bike and a touring bike and now I need a play bike. I explained to her how just one of my buddies new Harley's still costs more than all three of mine would be added together. She mentioned something about finding a good attorney and I took that as a maybe.

Steph · Post by **Steph** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:24 pm

@SECoda - What bike would you get?

gn2 · Post by **gn2** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:15 pm

Steph wrote:I do wonder why the dealer is having a hard time moving the CTXs?

Because they're shit.

you you · Post by **you you** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:33 pm

gn2 wrote:
Steph wrote:I do wonder why the dealer is having a hard time moving the CTXs?
Because they're shit.

The usual GN2 three word review...

A fine case and eloquently put.

Steph · Post by **Steph** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 5:50 pm

gn2 wrote:
Steph wrote:I do wonder why the dealer is having a hard time moving the CTXs?
Because they're shit.

They are not shit! So far the reviews have been good. I like them!

gn2 · Post by **gn2** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:31 pm

Anything with an exposed chain final drive is shit.
Same goes for a 270 crank motor.
And feet forward pegs.
There's three good reasons not to buy one and I've not even got going yet.

Steph · Post by **Steph** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:40 pm

Honda makes good shit!

Monty1952 · Post by **Monty1952** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:59 pm

gn2 wrote:Anything with an exposed chain final drive is shit.
Same goes for a 270 crank motor.
And feet forward pegs.
There's three good reasons not to buy one and I've not even got going yet.

Are you an Aberdonian that has trouble expressing your true feelings?

SECoda · Post by **SECoda** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:04 pm

That is a tough one. Since I have access to plenty of off-road riding and trails available I would go for another a combo bike. I have owned three different 175-250 cc Yamaha combos. For me they meet my playing definition. Honda has one too. Perfect for back country yet fine on the roads for short runs. I think I have the main road fun covered with the PCX and Forza for my speeds.

http://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport/ ... specs.aspx

http://powersports.honda.com/2015/crf250l/offroad.aspx

The chain, belt, drive shaft discussion is really somewhat related to use. Chains are the most efficient and most maintenance on most off-road or high-performance bikes. Shaft drives are the least efficient and expensive to fix. There are some good write-ups on when to consider each. I like the belts for low maintenance and just being cleaner (not spraying a lube all over) and I love the auto trans on the roads these days.

Steph wrote:@SECoda - What bike would you get?

iceman · Post by **iceman** » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:53 pm

Steph wrote:Honda makes good shit!

But they can't always shift it

gn2 · Post by **gn2** » Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:18 am

Monty1952 wrote:Are you an Aberdonian

No.

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