Riding 2013 Pcx over weight limit

ajwmrr · Post by **ajwmrr** » Mon May 25, 2015 9:13 pm

According to the manual, 386lbs is the pcx's weight limit. Me and my wife's combined weight is 460lbs. I've tried to look online for any issues riding like this but all I ever find is "its dangerous". So far ride wise, we're fine, maintaining 55mph.

What I want to know is, is there any mechanical or physical drawbacks to this? Is there anything that would fail due to riding like this?

stryder123 · Post by **stryder123** » Mon May 25, 2015 9:21 pm

I think you will find that the main issues will be the decrease in top speed and the rear shocks will bottom out on bumps. The weight limit is more for suspension as a safety thing. Of course the extra weight means extra wear on the drive belt and variator. I have over loaded almost every bike I have ever owned and have not had any severe problems. Honda is well built.

ajwmrr · Post by **ajwmrr** » Mon May 25, 2015 9:30 pm

Well, the top speed seems to be the same as if I was by myself, just takes a bit longer to reach it. We only bottomed out once, when we hit a deep pot hole.

Also, I'm not 100% sure but after riding, I check the tire temperatures. The back wheel is much hotter than the front...

gn2 · Post by **gn2** » Tue May 26, 2015 1:54 am

Suspesion, wheel and steering bearings and frame will all have increased wear and increased possibility of premature failure.

maddiedog · Post by **maddiedog** » Tue May 26, 2015 9:25 am

You can't brake as fast either.

Me + my wife on our PCX is just over 300lbs, and braking is scary enough with that. Make sure you leave lots of stopping room.

Mel46 · Post by **Mel46** » Tue May 26, 2015 10:40 am

I put my teenage grandson on the back of my PCX, along with some groceries, and the one major thing I noticed right away was brake fade. It takes a lot longer distance to come to a full stop when you are up to speed, plus if you do a lot of stop and go in traffic you will soon notice brake fade as the brakes start to overheat. Also, there is a requirement in the manual...and on the plaque on the bike...that the tire pressure must be increased when riding two up. I also noticed that the variator area was quite hot once we arrived home. I am going to guess that the belt is going to wear quite a bit faster if you ride over the weigh limit for an extended amount of time. ...and there is also that clutch bearing issue on some of the scooters.

ajwmrr · Post by **ajwmrr** » Tue May 26, 2015 12:29 pm

Havent really noticed much in terms of brake fade. We mainly ride WOT back roads.

The biggest issue i've noticed is that the back tire gets really hot. Should i increase the back air pressure? Seems considering how hot its running, it'd be dangerous to add more...

you you · Post by **you you** » Tue May 26, 2015 12:55 pm

gn2 wrote:Suspesion, wheel and steering bearings and frame will all have increased wear and increased possibility of premature failure.

Scary

Where does the frame wear?

gn2 · Post by **gn2** » Tue May 26, 2015 3:49 pm

you you wrote:Where does the frame wear?

In places you can't see without expensive NDT kit.

kcpcx · Post by **kcpcx** » Tue May 26, 2015 4:23 pm

You're running roughly 20% over the max weight limit the PCX is safely designed to carry.

Doing that is probably not going to result in the planet's imminent destruction, but it's a significant percentage beyond the design limits. Let's assume that the Honda engineers built in a 20% fudge factor, and picked a published weight limit lower than what the PCX should carry just to be on the safe side. You'd be at the ragged edge of what they thought the machine could withstand even assuming a 20% built in safety margin beyond the official limit.

Probably not the best idea, but maybe not world ending.

GeeGusKahn · Post by **GeeGusKahn** » Tue May 26, 2015 5:38 pm

ajwmrr wrote:According to the manual, 386lbs is the pcx's weight limit. Me and my wife's combined weight is 460lbs. I've tried to look online for any issues riding like this but all I ever find is "its dangerous". So far ride wise, we're fine, maintaining 55mph.

What I want to know is, is there any mechanical or physical drawbacks to this? Is there anything that would fail due to riding like this?

Everything is relative to what you want or need.
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ajwmrr · Post by **ajwmrr** » Tue May 26, 2015 5:47 pm

Ok so, in the long term things may fail early. I don't plan on riding like this all the time. Maybe say 20 miles or less a week.

Now on the short term, the rear tire getting really hot, is there a cause for concern?

As for that picture, sure i wouldnt mind over loading but we're going 55+ mph... lol

gn2 · Post by **gn2** » Tue May 26, 2015 5:58 pm

If its an OEM IRC tyre I wouldn't worry about it, they're very flexible, get hot and wear out quickly.
Before riding two up, you usually need to increase the air pressure in the rear tyre.

GeeGusKahn · Post by **GeeGusKahn** » Tue May 26, 2015 5:59 pm

ajwmrr wrote:Ok so, in the long term things may fail early. I don't plan on riding like this all the time. Maybe say 20 miles or less a week.

Now on the short term, the rear tire getting really hot, is there a cause for concern?

As for that picture, sure i wouldnt mind over loading but we're going 55+ mph... lol

Make sure your tires are properly inflated - and I would add a few extra pounds to the rear tire.
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Whatever rear tire you are running - look at the max psi rating on the side of the tire - and go up to that rating to see how that works for you.
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ScooteringAbout · Post by **ScooteringAbout** » Tue May 26, 2015 6:23 pm

My manual claims 33 psi on the rear solo, and 36 psi two up.

fish · Post by **fish** » Tue May 26, 2015 8:27 pm

GeeGusKahn wrote:
ajwmrr wrote:According to the manual, 386lbs is the pcx's weight limit. Me and my wife's combined weight is 460lbs. I've tried to look online for any issues riding like this but all I ever find is "its dangerous". So far ride wise, we're fine, maintaining 55mph.

What I want to know is, is there any mechanical or physical drawbacks to this? Is there anything that would fail due to riding like this?
Everything is relative to what you want or need.
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Is this an overload or what ?

Someone told me that yodelling is illegal in their country - thus the masks. See 'em all over. Bunch of yodelling fanatics, I guess!
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ajwmrr · Post by **ajwmrr** » Tue May 26, 2015 8:32 pm

Yes, they are the OEM tires. I will raise the pressure and let you all know. Thanks so far!

GeeGusKahn · Post by **GeeGusKahn** » Wed May 27, 2015 3:56 pm

DrewJW wrote:My manual claims 33 psi on the rear solo, and 36 psi two up.

Hay Drew, that is what Honda feels would be the correct ratings for everyday normal.
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However, there is also a spec on the side of each tire stating what the tire mfg feels is safe.
Each tire and mfg will have its own rating - so you have to actually look at the side of each tire to see that rating.
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ScooteringAbout · Post by **ScooteringAbout** » Wed May 27, 2015 4:05 pm

I believe this argument has stood for years, who is right. The people who design the bike, or the people who just design the tyre, and make it for a set wheel size.

you you · Post by **you you** » Wed May 27, 2015 4:16 pm

DrewJW wrote:I believe this argument has stood for years, who is right. The people who design the bike, or the people who just design the tyre, and make it for a set wheel size.

I can feel my will to live ebbing away already. Something in the low 30s the for the front and high 30s for the rear is good for any modern bike

The rear tyre on a scooter may feel warmer to the touch (and that isn't necessarily a bad thing) because if has a more direct heat line to the engine than a motorcycle as the engine and rear drive are a unit. And heat sinks

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