Long Commute

[Alibally]

Brakes should last between services though. It's not really good enough.

[Mister Paul]

Brakes should last between services though. It's not really good enough.

Well that depends on the rider and how hard they push and brake. If some riders can get thousands of miles out of a set of pads then if they're wearing quicker for someone else then it's down to the riding style.

Though I suspect that in some cases the linked brakes might contribute if they lead riders to get lazy and use the left lever more than they should. Proper braking should be 70% front.

[Alibally]

I realise that ,but 3000 miles for rear brakes has been reported by some people which is not the best. They should last longer than that, unless the calipers are sticking, then it should be a warranty issue.

[you you]

Brakes should last between services though. It's not really good enough.

True. In all my years of driving I've only ever replaced about a dozen pairs of brake shoes and half a dozen pairs of discs.

I do about 40,000 miles a year. A vehicles natural state is stationary, drive or ride properly and you don't need to help it too much. And strangely you can go much faster this way.

Or buy a variator and shit

[gn2]

Brake wear isn't about reliability is it? Or service intervals to be honest.

I disagree.
My scooter is my main transport to work, I rely on it to work between services.
I definitely don't want the brakes to stop working on my way to or from work.
This has happened to me, go for the front and rear brakes, only the front works.
Just not good enough.

Well that depends on the rider and how hard they push and brake. If some riders can get thousands of miles out of a set of pads then if they're wearing quicker for someone else then it's down to the riding style

Generally speaking yes, that's correct, but in the case of the Forza (and SH) the calipers stick due to poor design.
The wear is not down to how I use the brakes, I hardly ever use them and am usually doing less than 20mph when I apply them.
In 20,000 miles I've used them in anger about five times.

[Mister Paul]

Right, so it's about sticking calipers?

[gn2]

Yes, they stick because they are a bad design and positioned too close to the exhaust.
The pad wear is impossible to inspect properly without removing the exhaust, caliper heatshield and caliper.
Because they stick and cannot be inspected they are not reliable.

[Mister Paul]

Yes, they stick because they are a bad design and positioned too close to the exhaust.
The pad wear is impossible to inspect properly without removing the exhaust, caliper heatshield and caliper.
Because they stick and cannot be inspected they are not reliable.

OK, so we're confusing two different issues.

Service intervals are for periodic maintenance. An 8000 mile service interval on a scooter is pretty good.

Some riders having problems with sticking calipers is a different issue, and if brake pads are wearing early because of this then this isn't a factor in whether service intervals are appropriate or not.

[WhiteNoise]

Wait! butch3r, how did things work out on the (drill-less) rear rack you wanted for pizza deliveries? You never got back to us. Sign me, curious WN

My in-laws pizza place is worried that pizzas will slide around more with the turns on a scooter and there's less shock absorbers on bumps then a car our here in L.A. That's their logic. So it has been a no go so far.

Ah okay. I'm guessIng the In-laws are looking out for You too But Wait! You can still have a rear rack if You want one! It may come in handy one day then you'll be set to go. Just a thought

Back to "Putting on the Brakes" (Ritz) little humor....Very Little

[Mel46]

Here is a little suggestion for those who have a somewhat long ride on their pcx every day. I found a square gel waffle pad at Walmart in the household section close to where I think pillows were. You would have to look for it because it isn't in a prominent area. In any case, I purchased it for my bike and cut it to fit. My wife sewed a protective case for it and I strapped it onto my seat. I have had it on my bike for about 6 months and it has made a difference in my ride comfort. I am thinking of having her sew valcro straps on it that can be connected under the seat. In any case, it was quite inexpensive and may be just what is needed for long rides. Just a thought.

[Bigboss242]

I live in chino CA. I own the Honda forza so far I have had no issues with sticking breaks and have drove as far as redlands. Done my 8k service and had my fuel pump replaced. No issues so far. My only complaint is there is no way to get the proper rear tire size.

[you you]

Wait! butch3r, how did things work out on the (drill-less) rear rack you wanted for pizza deliveries? You never got back to us. Sign me, curious WN

My in-laws pizza place is worried that pizzas will slide around more with the turns on a scooter and there's less shock absorbers on bumps then a car our here in L.A. That's their logic. So it has been a no go so far.

Ah okay. I'm guessIng the In-laws are looking out for You too But Wait! You can still have a rear rack if You want one! It may come in handy one day then you'll be set to go. Just a thought

Back to "Putting on the Brakes" (Ritz) little humor....Very Little

Young Frankenstein?

[WhiteNoise]

Correct! Tippin' my hat 2yous! A Great movie! Always lmao