What's wrong with the Integra?

[Mister Paul]

I know one or two on here think they're a bag of spanners, and I can see there are some negatives when comparing them with a proper scooter (storage being the biggie). But there are positives about them as well -bigger wheels, bigger engine- and owners tend to buy them and keep them.

So I'm wondering what the issue is for those who think they're bad?...

[gn2]

I don't like them because they have worse storage than the regular NC750S and cost a huge amount more to buy and service.
Basically it's a shit scooter and a worse motorbike than the bike its based on.

[Phil]

Nothing wrong. Great ride, durability and technology for the money.

[Embattle]

While I don't agree with GN2 that it is shit I do on the main aspects of his post, in essence it is a very expensive hybrid that combines aspects of scooter and motorbike but does to some degree have limitations in both areas.

[Mister Paul]

While I don't agree with GN2 that it is shit I do on the main aspects of his post, in essence it is a very expensive hybrid that combines aspects of scooter and motorbike but does to some degree have limitations in both areas.

Thank you. I'd be prepared to lose the storage to gain the better distance capability and power.

[gn2]

Two scooters spring to mind, the Maxsym 600 and the Silverwing 600.
IMO both are better scooters than the Integra and cost a lot less.
The Silverwing is only slightly down on power, has far better storage, fuel range in excess of 200 miles and doesn't have a chain.
And I'd rather have a simple CVT than a DCT, all that complexity, there's a lot to go wrong......

[Mister Paul]

Two scooters spring to mind, the Maxsym 600 and the Silverwing 600.
IMO both are better scooters than the Integra and cost a lot less.
The Silverwing is only slightly down on power, has far better storage, fuel range in excess of 200 miles and doesn't have a chain.
And I'd rather have a simple CVT than a DCT, all that complexity, there's a lot to go wrong......

Thanks.

[Mel46]

Consider what happened to me with the nut on the variety coming loose while riding out in the boondocks, and then consider what the results might have been if I had been on an Integra. The CVT is easy to work on and can be fixed most of the time while out in 'the wild'. A DCT won't be that easy to work on, wherever you may be. Just something to think about. Maintenance is a top thing for scooters.

[Mister Paul]

Consider what happened to me with the nut on the variety coming loose while riding out in the boondocks, and then consider what the results might have been if I had been on an Integra. The CVT is easy to work on and can be fixed most of the time while out in 'the wild'. A DCT won't be that easy to work on, wherever you may be. Just something to think about. Maintenance is a top thing for scooters.

Thanks. I've had a chain snap on a motorbike at 80 on the motorway so appreciate potential problems, but it's no more a concern when touring than with any other motorbike.

The Honda DCT has been out for some years now, is incredibly popular and there are very few reports of problems.

Got my eye on a Silverwing as well now though. It might come down to a ride-off.

[Embattle]

http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-fir ... 31042.html

[Mister Paul]

So, I was disappointed with the Integra. I expected it to be much better. It's as clever bike, but it's clunky and not really £2k of benefit over the Forza that I have now.
The Silverwing was much better. Comfortable and very quick (600cc twin). I got off it thinking I'd made my decision.
But then I made the mistake of asking if I could demo a CB500X. Great bike. I can flat feet on it and it's far more easy to move around at slow speed than the Versys was. I really liked it. The engine is powerful enough (0-60 in about 4.5 apparently) and I'd forgotten how much more stable the big wheels make things -had to start counter-steering again.
So, I can get the Silverwing (registered Oct 2015) for 5800 (7k new). They don't make them any more, and they only do about 45mpg. They're also 4k mile service intevals, which will cost me £500 while the warranty is still valid. Thunder Road in Gloucester have a CB500X with 200 miles on, 12 months old, 70mpg, 8k mile service intervals, for £4700. I'd want to factor in for a taller screen, £200 on better wet weather gear, and top box bracket. And put up with it being a bit more draughty.
I've come out with a different decision to make than I went in with. Do I go for fun or comfort? I'd be happier riding all day on the Silverwing, but I didn't want to take the CB500 back in.

[gn2]

they only do about 45mpg. They're also 4k mile service intevals, which will cost me £500 while the warranty is still valid.

Couple of points, the newer (post 2007) Silverwing has better fuel economy than the original launch model referenced in nearly all the online tests and reviews.
An average of 60mpg is a realistic figure, with care 70mpg is possible.
The interim 4000 mile service is just an oil change and brake inspection, thirty minutes tops.
If you get a used one you can do your own servicing for much cheapness.

I think the novelty of the CB500X would soon wear off, plus they are manufactured in Thailand to a far lower standard than the Silverwing.
And the CB500X has a filthy nasty horrible chaindrive.
Yuck.

http://www.jacksscootershop.com/mainten ... SC600.html

[pxc-in-japan]

Thought about the Integra before the current 2015 model came about.
I ride a 2013 Suzuki V-Strom 650 (as well as my lovely PCX of course!).
All things considered, I would go for either a bike or a scooter, but I would not now go for an Integra.
I have no problems with it to report, but why buy a 'scooter' and then worry about cleaning and adjusting the chain every 1,000 kilometres?

I love the comfort, ease and service schedule of scooters (although I service about twice or even more often than maker recommendations), and I love my bike, but if I wanted a big scooter, I'd buy a big scooter.
Actually, if I were to replace my V-strom with a big scooter, I'd certainly test the Silverwing or current replacement model as a contender.