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gn2 · Post by **gn2** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:22 pm

Not allowed to carry a petrol container bigger than 10 litres in the UK and 20 litre jerry cans are illegal.

you you · Post by **you you** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:16 am

gn2 wrote:Not allowed to carry a petrol container bigger than 10 litres in the UK and 20 litre jerry cans are illegal.

All the more reason to do/get one

loudgonzo · Post by **loudgonzo** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:14 am

i have a 5 gallon and 2 gallon gas can.

don't understand what you mean about not being able to carry these cans? you mean carrying them on the scooter? I fill them up when i drive my truck.

gn2 · Post by **gn2** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:36 am

What I mean is that you are not allowed to transport or store petrol in a portable plastic container bigger than 5 litres or a portable metal container bigger than 10 litres, it is against the law.

Taz · Post by **Taz** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:07 pm

It s allowed in Oz and recommended when the distance between gas stations in the outback can be 400 miles or more!

maddiedog · Post by **maddiedog** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:45 am

Hey loudgonzo, welcome to the forums and congrats on your new PCX!

Even though you've already gotten your PCX, I'll chime in since we do a lot of two-up riding (the info might help someone else looking at a PCX). Me + my wife = ~320lbs. Add dog = 340lbs. Add lots of luggage = 400lbs. We've rode thousands of miles like this, and I've never gotten a tank below 85mpg riding 2-up. My PCX 125 usually tops out at around 59mph, regardless of whether we're riding 1-up or 2-up. The only time we've had trouble is starting on steep hills -- the bike doesn't have the torque to get us up past 35mph or so until we get to flat ground, when it will go right to the maximum speed just fine. If we're moving and encounter a big hill under speed, we might get some deceleration, but usually the bike maintains speed. We stay off highways, and never have problems on any roads with a speed limit of 50mph or less.

3-up PCX riding:

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charleslabounty · Post by **charleslabounty** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:12 pm

I bought my 150 Saturday to carry on the back of our small RV. I had a Ninja 500, but it exceeded the tongue weight and bottomed out the springs even after installing airbags. (Plus is got heavier each year to push it up the carrier ramp.)
The PCX weighs 140lbs less than the Ninja.
We will be riding two up most of the time. I weigh 175 and the wife 130 lbs. Last night on a short ride I ran it up to 50 MPH. It had a little more but not much.
I too think a bigger scoot would be better for two up, but a Silverwing or Bergman get back to + 400lbs.

gn2 · Post by **gn2** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:21 pm

charleslabounty wrote:I too think a bigger scoot would be better for two up, but a Silverwing or Bergman get back to + 400lbs.

So ditch the RV.

Alibally · Post by **Alibally** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:59 pm

gn2 wrote:What I mean is that you are not allowed to transport or store petrol in a portable plastic container bigger than 5 litres or a portable metal container bigger than 10 litres, it is against the law.

You mean of of those that are available in machine mart right now?
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/produ ... erry%20can

Alibally · Post by **Alibally** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:06 pm

Or one of these.
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... yId_165619

loudgonzo · Post by **loudgonzo** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:22 pm

charleslabounty wrote:I bought my 150 Saturday to carry on the back of our small RV. I had a Ninja 500, but it exceeded the tongue weight and bottomed out the springs even after installing airbags. (Plus is got heavier each year to push it up the carrier ramp.)
The PCX weighs 140lbs less than the Ninja.
We will be riding two up most of the time. I weigh 175 and the wife 130 lbs. Last night on a short ride I ran it up to 50 MPH. It had a little more but not much.
I too think a bigger scoot would be better for two up, but a Silverwing or Bergman get back to + 400lbs.

150 has been working out great since we've been riding. got it back from dealer last week after 600 mile maint. Me and wife weigh about 320lb together, and it has no problem doing low to mid 60's on flat road. we are mostly doing about 50-55 on the roads we use. On a slope we've gotten to 71 gps verified.

I think there is a problem if you can only get 50mph (and just a little more)

gn2 · Post by **gn2** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:51 pm

You need a licence to use those.
http://www.fireservice.co.uk/safety/fuel-storage

charleslabounty · Post by **charleslabounty** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:43 pm

loudgonzo wrote:
charleslabounty wrote:I bought my 150 Saturday to carry on the back of our small RV. I had a Ninja 500, but it exceeded the tongue weight and bottomed out the springs even after installing airbags. (Plus is got heavier each year to push it up the carrier ramp.)
The PCX weighs 140lbs less than the Ninja.
We will be riding two up most of the time. I weigh 175 and the wife 130 lbs. Last night on a short ride I ran it up to 50 MPH. It had a little more but not much.
I too think a bigger scoot would be better for two up, but a Silverwing or Bergman get back to + 400lbs.
150 has been working out great since we've been riding. got it back from dealer last week after 600 mile maint. Me and wife weigh about 320lb together, and it has no problem doing low to mid 60's on flat road. we are mostly doing about 50-55 on the roads we use. On a slope we've gotten to 71 gps verified.

I think there is a problem if you can only get 50mph (and just a little more)

Well after I get a few more miles on it, I'll see what it will do wide open on a flat stretch. I tend to take it easy on new bikes for the first 200 hundred miles.
thanks

sendler2112 · Post by **sendler2112** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:13 pm

I timed my PCX150 with 260 pounds total on board. The ride was ok. Starting to get a little underdamped on rebound in the back. 0-60 mph timed runs are too close to the top speed of the scooter to be consistent so I used 0-50 mph/ 80kph and got around 13 seconds. It's not real quick with weight on it. Two up merging onto a 65 mph highway will be pretty unsafe where your top speed will be barely into the low 60's and take 20S? to get there. The PCX is a great machine for a slo rider but would take complete dedication, skill, and lowered expectations to be ridden two up for a 25 mile commute.

maddiedog · Post by **maddiedog** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:51 pm

sendler2112 wrote:Two up merging onto a 65 mph highway will be pretty unsafe where your top speed will be barely into the low 60's and take 20S? to get there. The PCX is a great machine for a slo rider but would take complete dedication, skill, and lowered expectations to be ridden two up for a 25 mile commute.

Especially so on a highway. The PCX can go on the highway, that doesn't mean it should. I've done it, it was stupid, and I probably won't do it again.

you you · Post by **you you** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:23 pm

It's the PCX way or the highway...

sendler2112 · Post by **sendler2112** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:42 pm

loudgonzo wrote:looking to get the 150 to ride to/from work mostly, about 25 miles each way, but would be with 2 people.

Actually, if you can shift, a CBR250R would be the next better choice on price/ performance/ fuel economy for two up highway commuting. ABS only adds $500 or you might find a used one.

gn2 · Post by **gn2** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:19 pm

The Kymco Downtown 300 is a far better commuting vehicle than a CBR250R (or any sport styled bike)

sendler2112 · Post by **sendler2112** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:49 am

The Kymco Downtown would be the second step up in price from the PCX and probably worth the extra money for a comfortable two up riding position and better weather protection than the CBR.

gn2 · Post by **gn2** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:25 am

Don't know about US prices, but the Downtown is roughly the same price as a CBR250R in the UK.
As well as the points you mention you also get a convenient on board storage compartment.

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