Sym Maxsym 400i ABS

[gn2]

Fiat 126 was my first car.
Pile of shite.

[you you]

Fiat 126 was my first car.
Pile of shite.

Perhaps only yours was.

[gn2]

Yep that'll be it, mine was a whole different design of car to all the rest.

[you you]

Yep that'll be it, mine was a whole different design of car to all the rest.

Ah, it's the design that was shite

Why on earth did you buy it then?

[WhiteNoise]

Don't know shite about the 126, but a good friend of mine had an X19, light copper color body w/black removable hardtop (that fit in the "front" trunk Fun driving and a good looker in its' day (1975)

[gn2]

Why on earth did you buy it then?

Because as it was a reshaped 500 I erroneously thought it would be a funmobile and a bit of a hoot.
Should have got a 2CV instead because they are brilliant.
Later on I did but I had a Lada 1200 Estate in between.

[you you]

Why on earth did you buy it then?

Because as it was a reshaped 500 I erroneously thought it would be a funmobile and a bit of a hoot.
Should have got a 2CV instead because they are brilliant.
Later on I did but I had a Lada 1200 Estate in between.

And your opinion of an audi TT is that it's a poofs car?

[gn2]

Yes.
Absolutely hate them.
TTs that is, not poofs.
Some of my friends are poofs, two of them have TTs.
So the statement is factually correct.
And Harley riders are mostly uphill gardeners too.

[you you]

Yes.
Absolutely hate them.
TTs that is, not poofs.
Some of my friends are poofs, two of them have TTs.
So the statement is factually correct.
And Harley riders are mostly uphill gardeners too.

So only straight car experts drive Lada 1200s?

[Pcxdemon]

Yes.
Absolutely hate them.
TTs that is, not poofs.
Some of my friends are poofs, two of them have TTs.
So the statement is factually correct.
And Harley riders are mostly uphill gardeners too.

So only straight car experts drive Lada 1200s?

And 2cv's and a current car is a Micra?

[you you]

Yes.
Absolutely hate them.
TTs that is, not poofs.
Some of my friends are poofs, two of them have TTs.
So the statement is factually correct.
And Harley riders are mostly uphill gardeners too.

So only straight car experts drive Lada 1200s?

And 2cv's and a current car is a Micra?

Micra!!!

Grannies car

[Mel46]

Now now kids. Let's not get into who has the worst cars. We all know what FIAT stands for, sooo back to the Maxsym. Anyone know how good the nation wide servicing area is....in other words, how easy or hard is it to get service nation wide for them? I've been thinking that some day I may have to replace my Burgman and that one looks nice, but looks don't make a bike good. If they ever offer the new Honda Fora in the USA it would be at the top of my list. SYM could be on the list if it had a real network for service.

[Cascanciu]

Where I live you know winter has arrived when the ditches start filling up with BMWs.

Do you guys drive that bad?

[gn2]

A bit of a combination of idiot drivers and bad design, the power is normally delivered by the wrong wheels.
However even when the power is delivered by the correct wheels, (Mini) the typical arsehole that drives a BMW can still tip one on its roof.

[you you]

A bit of a combination of idiot drivers and bad design, the power is normally delivered by the wrong wheels.
However even when the power is delivered by the correct wheels, (Mini) the typical arsehole that drives a BMW can still tip one on its roof.

RWD is wrong? Boy are you an expert.

[gn2]

RWD is wrong? Boy are you an expert.

Yes it is wrong for road cars.
Which is why the vast majority of road cars in the civilised world are fwd.
So not just my opinion, but the majority view.

[you you]

RWD is wrong? Boy are you an expert.

Yes it is wrong for road cars.
Which is why the vast majority of road cars in the civilised world are fwd.
So not just my opinion, but the majority view.

Have you every come across gray?

[Cascanciu]

A bit of a combination of idiot drivers and bad design, the power is normally delivered by the wrong wheels.
However even when the power is delivered by the correct wheels, (Mini) the typical arsehole that drives a BMW can still tip one on its roof.

I'm, honestly, taking this discussion as a pure joke . Don't mean to offend you in any sense, but it's just funny, to me, that you are so vehement in your statements.

Now seriously, I have about 185 hp and 40 kg-m of torque sent to my rear wheels. It's a shame that we don't live close, because I'd bet with you that you'd be unable to make my car loose traction and spin in any corner on "normal" driving conditions, and normal includes wet. They are equipped with something DSC that stands for Dynamic Stability Control. That system will brake the wheel that is turning faster (hence, loosing traction) on a first stage, then cut down on the fuel injection (Diesel, remember) if that's not enough. It the rear (or front, the car is actually more prone to understeer than to oversteer) tends to drift out in the direction of the corner, it will apply the brakes (normally, the outer front wheel) to return the car to control. It WORKS. Unless those bimmers you saw on the ditch were rather old (E36, 34 series, for example), it's quite difficult to wreck one due to its RWD unless you're driving in a purely reckless manner. But then you'd wreck a VW Golf, too.

Mind you, driver's cars are always RWD, with some AWD exceptions. You get a FWD, you either can't drive, or you're a poof .

[gn2]

I'm, honestly, taking this discussion as a pure joke

Well at least you've got something right.

[Taz]

I sat on the Kymco downtown 300i and the Sym Maxsym 400i. The Maxsym seat bump can move back and forth a couple of inches and even better can come right off for very tall folk like me! It wa really comfy without the bump! I think they are the same price here in Oz so I am leaning to the Maxsym as a PCX upgrade at the moment. Or I could keep both! I need to find out if my full size XL helmet will fit under the seat as a next step as I read some helmets dont fit.