Tire Inflator Blew My 5A Fuse

[iceman]

I purchased an inflator from the US as it was a highly rated portable one that drew 5-6A rather than 10A. but I've only ever run it off the battery direct with the bike not running and not used the 5A accessory outlet. It's only on twice for about 10-20 seconds every few months dependant on how many PSI I am down and never had an issue with the biek starting (original battery, bike now over 3 years old and always stored outside but used all year round).

[you you]

You are never going to use this stuff you know...

Why not carry a small bicycle pump if you must?

[iceman]

I'm glad I bought my inflator as I got fed up finding the supermarket inflator's broken when I wanted to check my tyre pressure. So handy to have one to hand and if you wish, carry with you on long journeys. Mines a Motopump which cost more than many of the cheaper ones but has an accurate gauge and does not draw too many amps.

[TheMaverick]

As TheMaverick stated earlier, would you recommend always idling the engine while drawing power from the battery to inflate tires?

Put another way, having an inflated tyre but a battery too flat to start the bike again wouldn't be a good thing. May as well get as much energy flowing in the direction of the battery whilst a lot is coming out the other way.

[Mel46]

"Although I understand, I think, the purpose of the Battery Tender Jr., I don't expect my PCX to ever be garaged or stored for any length of time considering I don't get snowy winter in my part of California."

The Battery Tender Jr comes in handy for multiple things other than just keeping your battery charged during snowy weather. If you go on extended vacation it would be a good idea to put the Battery Tender on and keep the battery topped off. Also, if you have the Battery Tender leads permanently attached, you can buy several types of adapters for the leads including a USB adapter (one or two ports)...I have used one on my bike multiple times, especially if I have multiple things plugged in while riding, such as GPS and phone, a cigarette lighter port, a solar maintainer, and even an extension cable to allow you to use your bike to jump another bike (just make sure you have the red wire matching the red on the extension and the red wire on the alligator clips matching the red wire on the extension). I have used mine to jump start my wife's bike so I know that this works.
In short, they come in handy for much more than just topping off your bike battery.

[PaCoX]

"Although I understand, I think, the purpose of the Battery Tender Jr., I don't expect my PCX to ever be garaged or stored for any length of time considering I don't get snowy winter in my part of California."

The Battery Tender Jr comes in handy for multiple things other than just keeping your battery charged during snowy weather. If you go on extended vacation it would be a good idea to put the Battery Tender on and keep the battery topped off. Also, if you have the Battery Tender leads permanently attached, you can buy several types of adapters for the leads including a USB adapter (one or two ports)...I have used one on my bike multiple times, especially if I have multiple things plugged in while riding, such as GPS and phone, a cigarette lighter port, a solar maintainer, and even an extension cable to allow you to use your bike to jump another bike (just make sure you have the red wire matching the red on the extension and the red wire on the alligator clips matching the red wire on the extension). I have used mine to jump start my wife's bike so I know that this works.
In short, they come in handy for much more than just topping off your bike battery.

Hey Mel46, I tried to PM you, but my message just seems to be stuck in the "Outbox". Do you use the eyelet connectors on your battery? Also, with all the accessories you run, are you running wires from the battery compartment through the body of the PCX and up through the dashboard? Pics?

[WhiteNoise]

Howdy again PaCox! Your PM to Mel will remain in your "outbox" until Mel opens it. After he's read it, you will see that same PM in your "sent" box (just think of the "sent" box as mail being received by the recipient).

I can help you with one of your questions. I did use the eyelet connector's, they're placed on the batteries + (positive) and - (negative) terminals. You can see a bit of that here:

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I then placed that small wire through an opening in the top left of the batteries cover. That makes it easily accessible under my seat.

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In my case, I did have to buy the optional extension wire because my electrical outlet is a distance away. That longer extension connects directly into the smaller one and then...Viola! I have Tender Power

Btw, my seat is closed while my battery is being "tendered." I ran the shorter wire through an open space found on the right side of the seat (near the seats latch). It then hangs outside the bike. This is where my extension wire gets connected.

[WhiteNoise]

Here are photos of some other bits that connect to the Battery Tender Jr., brought to you by Deltran. Google these items for best pricing as you would Any Item.

[Mel46]

I answered your pm. Just don't freak out when you see my electronics setup. I have an unbelievable amount of stuff connected directly to the battery, for very good reasons. For instance, my add on front spot lights are separate because they pull so much current AND because if the regular lights blow a fuse or have another problem, I can turn on the spot lights and drive home. Then there is my horn. The weak little horn that comes on the bike is pathetic. The wires that run it are not capable of high current, so I use them to run the relay for my Bad Boy air horn.
I also have small strobe lights on the bike for night riding. I can turn them on or off from my handlebar switch.
...and then there is the Battery Tender cable... :-)
So I have a lot going on.
Whitenoise gives you a good example of single wire setups that look good and stay out of the way. There are a lot of accessories for the Battery Tender because of its great quick disconnect setup.

[PaCoX]

WhiteNoise, thanks for explaining the "Outbox" and "Sent messages" folders in the PM. Apologies to all those who have received multiple copies of the same message from me when I've been PM-ing with you.

Also, thanks to both you and Mel46 (via PM) for the informative pictures and descriptions of how you take advantage of the PCX battery with the help of the Battery Tender leads. It's always good to have options to fully customize and utilize this awesome scooter.

[Gil]

I found a place to stash my air pump. First, I took my pump apart. I then got a big enough ziplock to put the pump in and stashed in in the front fairing of the scoot. Pictures might be a better description. I'll be wrapping the pump in a sheet of foam so that it won't rip through the ziplock bag.

Gil

[TheMaverick]

I found a place to stash my air pump. First, I took my pump apart. I then got a big enough ziplock to put the pump in and stashed in in the front fairing of the scoot. Pictures might be a better description. I'll be wrapping the pump in a sheet of foam so that it won't rip through the ziplock bag.

Gil

Ever thought of just putting a Givi box on the back? I find mine is invaluable for holding rain gear, first aid kid, tie-down strops, inflator, umbrella, and a box of other stuff. In fact I've just ordered an even bigger one. Dirt cheap.

[Gil]

I found a place to stash my air pump. First, I took my pump apart. I then got a big enough ziplock to put the pump in and stashed in in the front fairing of the scoot. Pictures might be a better description. I'll be wrapping the pump in a sheet of foam so that it won't rip through the ziplock bag.

Gil

Ever thought of just putting a Givi box on the back? I find mine is invaluable for holding rain gear, first aid kid, tie-down strops, inflator, umbrella, and a box of other stuff. In fact I've just ordered an even bigger one. Dirt cheap.

I have one, but I need as much space free in my Top box and underseat storage as possible.I have a 47 liter top box. I store my jacket, boots, helmet and gloves in them. It's some free storage.

My top box was 80 bucks, cheap. On the other side of the fairing there is some bungees, and tire patch kit in a ziplock bag.


Gil

[TheMaverick]

Sounds like you've got it sorted. I usually put my helmet, gloves and jacket under the seat.

[Gil]

Sounds like you've got it sorted. I usually put my helmet, gloves and jacket under the seat.

I think so. I place my jacket under the seat, my helmet in the trunk along with the motorcycle boots and gloves. My jacket is kind of bulky and I have a full face helmet.
Its great leaving everything in the scoot and walking to class.

Gil

[TheMaverick]

I use a Schuberth C3 Pro full-face helmet - fits under the seat just fine. My usual jacket is a puffer jacket, so squishes down pretty small, although to be honest, most of the time I just keep it on.

[Mel46]

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My jacket fits nicely under my seat, while the helmet and gloves fit in my tailbox.

[springer1]

If a flat repair kit is desired for on the road use, consider putting a "noodle" kit and a bicycle hand pump under the seat, these small pumps normally fill 80 -100 psi tires, the scooter tires are much less. Be careful with air pumps at gas stations, some of them can toss a lot of air in a per seconds.

[pcx888]

I have a option I use a device called Dynaplug.

[springer1]

Thanks for sharing, as I bought one of those small slime air pumps. I got the $20 dollar one though. Which one do you have?
I got a flat today and I was outside of town, barely made it to a gas station to patch my tire. I had just bought a tire plug kit, but no inflator kit. Now I have a pump and an air pump, ready.

Which pump do you have?
Gil

Bicycle shops sell a small CO2 tire inflator that uses the same little canister that a air rifle does. They work great and are "overkill" for a bicycle tire so you need to be careful not to over-inflate, it has an on-off trigger. Would be fine on a PCX-type tire. You could always carry several canisters. The whole thing assembled is probably 5" x 1.5"; the canister is stored in the inflator - but (at least in mine) upside down to prevent accidental discharge .

Google " CO2 bike tire inflator " and you'll see lots of various brands.