Center stand FAIL
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Center stand FAIL
I parked on the center stand today, and it just popped right off. The mounts on the bottom of the engine block broke on the muffler side.
I'll see if I can get it replaced under warranty at the local Honda dealer... I'll need a new engine block though...
I will go take pictures in a bit and post them up. It's quite disappointing, I expected better quality from Honda.
I'll see if I can get it replaced under warranty at the local Honda dealer... I'll need a new engine block though...
I will go take pictures in a bit and post them up. It's quite disappointing, I expected better quality from Honda.
Currently ride: 2011 Honda PCX 125 - Upgraded windshield and seat, keeping this one mostly stock
Previously rides: 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes
Previously rides: 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes
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holy shit, i should say thats covered under warranty, have the threads stripped out of the block? if not i would kick up a fuss with honda direct, get the number form your dealer, get onto customer relations and fight for it, they'll cover you and you might even get some freebies
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Re: Center stand FAIL
oh wow.. I use my center stand every day... I agree with calling honda direct. Might not even want to start with a dealer. I have hit my center stand while coasting into my driveway (cars love to block it all the time) so I caught the centerstand on the curb. Has this ever happened with you? I'm going to inspect mine for cracks/abnormal wear from now on.
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Re: Center stand FAIL
Thats not good. It's either a fault in the design or bad casting, neither is acceptable. I wonder if this is going to become a common failure.
Lucky you were there to catch it or you would have quite a bit of damage to the panels as well.
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thats bad,but would start with your dealer first,youll piss them off going direct....
Scoots so far- Peugeot jetforce 125,honda Dylan 125,yamaha x max 125,honda pcx 125,honda nss300 forza ;-) and bikes were kh250, zxr750L1,zx9B1,zx9c1,wr426,xjr1300sp,09-z1000
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pics or it didnt happen!
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Re: Center stand FAIL
Stopped by the dealer, he took pictures and submitted a claim to Honda USA. They'll have to replace the engine block, which will take 10 shop hours and involve completely removing the engine...
Here's a view from below, you can CLEARLY see where the mount broke off.
I should add a note here, the scuffing you see on the black part of the centerstand is where the stand itself sits against the engine block, and is not from an impact.
I've bottomed out the plastic once, but never the centerstand. I'll keep you guys updated how Honda handles it... I'm hoping they just replace it no questions asked, even though it will potentially cost them quite a bit.
Here's a view from below, you can CLEARLY see where the mount broke off.
I should add a note here, the scuffing you see on the black part of the centerstand is where the stand itself sits against the engine block, and is not from an impact.
I've bottomed out the plastic once, but never the centerstand. I'll keep you guys updated how Honda handles it... I'm hoping they just replace it no questions asked, even though it will potentially cost them quite a bit.
Currently ride: 2011 Honda PCX 125 - Upgraded windshield and seat, keeping this one mostly stock
Previously rides: 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes
Previously rides: 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes
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Re: Center stand FAIL
I didn't realize how HUGE the other image was, here's a smaller version:
Currently ride: 2011 Honda PCX 125 - Upgraded windshield and seat, keeping this one mostly stock
Previously rides: 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes
Previously rides: 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes
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Center stand FAIL
Nasty. We will need to keep an eye on that one.
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Re: Center stand FAIL
Meeting up with a guy this Sunday named john. He just joined here. Ill be sure to take a look at this area! Kinda freaks me out too seeing that I have snagged my centerstand on the curb twice. Once was a scrape, the second was a pretty good slam. Always checked for damage after the slightest impact but never found any sign of damage. Now I know exactly where to look.
Please keep us updated dave.. very interested to see how honda treats you with this one =)
Please keep us updated dave.. very interested to see how honda treats you with this one =)
Re: Center stand FAIL
Man nuts...!!! I thought my blinkers getting stuck was an annoying manufacturer's defect... Yours wins! (Btw, I am going to get my blinkers fixed under warranty eventually.......)
Re: Center stand FAIL
i warn you, Honda's uk warranty department is very good but slow. being a dealer for their power equipment i have to deal with them a lot, ppl don't know how to use lawnmowers even less than scooters
it could take a month for your dealer to get the warranty acceptance, they probably won;t carry out the work before then because of the cost of it, if it was a small job they'd do it and wait for the warranty to be accepted, but something like this is big and there is a small chance they won;t warranty it. i wish you luck
it could take a month for your dealer to get the warranty acceptance, they probably won;t carry out the work before then because of the cost of it, if it was a small job they'd do it and wait for the warranty to be accepted, but something like this is big and there is a small chance they won;t warranty it. i wish you luck
Center stand FAIL
I don't see why they shouldn't honor it, they don't really have a 'leg to stand on'
...sorry
But yeah that sucks. Im gonna keep an eye on mine. I only ever use the centre stand, but I put the side stand down too just to be safe most of the time.
...sorry
But yeah that sucks. Im gonna keep an eye on mine. I only ever use the centre stand, but I put the side stand down too just to be safe most of the time.
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Re: Center stand FAIL
i just use the stand for when i leave the bike unattended
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Re: Center stand FAIL
I ALWAYS use the center stand, but worse case, they'll deny me and I'll have to use the kickstand. I'll raise hell over it though, because I can't park my scooters closer together if one is on a kickstand, it'll end up taking up way more room since it's leaning on its side.
Currently ride: 2011 Honda PCX 125 - Upgraded windshield and seat, keeping this one mostly stock
Previously rides: 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes
Previously rides: 2005 V-Strom DL650, 1974 Vespa Ciao, 2011 Honda PCX 170 (tons of mods - takegawa 170cc big bore kit, gears, etc), 1996 Honda Nighthawk 250, 1987 Honda Spree, 2000 KTM 125SX, 2003 Honda Silverwing, 2007 Genuine Buddy 125, 1998 Honda PC800, 2008 Buddy 125 (white), 2008 Buddy 125 (red), 2001 Honda Reflex, 1987 Honda Elite, 1988 Honda Spree, 2007 Yamaha Vino, 2007 Honda Metro, 2x 125cc pure-chinesium dirt bikes
Re: Center stand FAIL
ask yourself, have i been sitting on the bike while it is on the center stand? have i rocked back and forth to roll forward off the stand while sitting on the seat?had a passenger on the back while doing these procedure's? i've been a owner rider for 50 years and the quoted procedure's are no-no's.
Paul
Paul
Re: Center stand FAIL
On my cbt we were told not to do this as the break off on most scooters.They just arent strong enough to take the strain the guy was saying and its common mistake beginners make too.ptmcd1 wrote:ask yourself, have i been sitting on the bike while it is on the center stand? have i rocked back and forth to roll forward off the stand while sitting on the seat?had a passenger on the back while doing these procedure's? i've been a owner rider for 50 years and the quoted procedure's are no-no's.
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Rolling the scooter of the stand while sitting on it is something i do with the PCX. It is a habit i got into when i got my first scooter 9 years ago. I only did 1000 miles on that before getting a bike but now i am back on scooters i certainly wont be taking the risk anymore.
Good luck getting it sorted
Good luck getting it sorted
Re: Center stand FAIL
So long as you take your weight on both your feet on the ground while you rock it off the stand it should be fine.
It's sitting with both your feet on the running boards that causes problems.
It's sitting with both your feet on the running boards that causes problems.
Four decades on two wheels has taught me nothing, all advice given is guaranteed to be wrong
Re: Center stand FAIL
That seems like a good way to fall on your face!!gn2 wrote:It's sitting with both your feet on the running boards that causes problems.